Are there regional accents in Poland

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07-02-2010, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by skinem

You have picked a side and are going to stick to it regardless of research or reality. Do some research yourself on what actual linguists say regarding accents.
You are foolish and obtuse in refusing to accept that any place or people do not have accents. The multiple pages of this thread and others that you have participated in have proven that it is a waste of time to engage you in any attempt to have meaningful dialogue and I regret that I have wasted even further time that I'll never get back.

Have a good evening.
You didn't read my last post a couple above this post where I acknowledged accents [thanks to the fascinating links 5Lakes provided]. So don't have a cow!
07-02-2010, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GLS2010
Everyone as an accent. In America we all have an American accent and there different forms of it, like the New York accent, Boston accent, southern accent, and mid west accent. Those are the most distinctive. Then you have places like Florida and the west that sound like the General American accent, but if you pay close attention you will hear regional differences. Like in Seattle people say bag as beg, and beg as baig and wheel as will. But when your having a regular conversation with them they pretty much speak with the general American accent and you wouldn't be able to tell where they're from unless you pay close attention. You would be surprised how many ppl in the northeast speak with the same general American accent. like Suburban/south jersey, PA, upstate NY, CT, NH, VT, MASS. outside of Boston, etc.
Philadelphia and Pittburgh both have distinctive, and entirely different, accents.
07-04-2010, 11:40 PM
Location: Southwest Washington
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Originally Posted by californio sur
Thanks for taking the time to link fascinating articles on "California English" and I now stand corrected that there are indeed accents of sorts in California. But the subtleties and emphasis on particular words seems more the characteristic than a full-blown accent. "Valley talk" or "surfer talk" is not really widespread and it is interesting that among certain ethnic\ racial groups that the accent is the same inside or outside California. For example a typical black person in California speaks English in a way that is quite similar to what black people speak in other states. Also, I have a hard time agreeing with the Wikipedia article that suggests Latinos refer to San Francisco as "San Pancho" [I have never heard that]. But overall these articles were quite interesting to read and I yield to your opinion that there are, in-fact, accents in California.
There is this thing called a "chain vowel shift" that is a very real phenomenon that occurs in living languages, including the English language. This is the explanation for why many Southerners pronounce "ride" in a way that sounds more like "rahhd" and why people from northern cities in the Midwest pronounce "hot" where it sounds more like "hat", giving them a distinguishable "accent".

Relevant to this thread... There is also a unique shift occuring in California called the "California Vowel Shift." There is a similar, though slightly different shift occuring in the Pacific Northwest. These shifts are in the beginning stages, but are embodied by the "surfer dudes"/"valley girls" of SoCal in the way the vowels are produced, but the valley girls have a more extreme or "heavy" form of the accent. You don't see that accent as much in Northern California, or at all really in the Inland West. This isn't about saying "like, totally, for sure," because young people ALL OVER the country say that in their varied accents. This is about the actual linguistic sound systems that are used in the various dialects.

I can tell you, for sure, living with and meeting younger people from all over the U.S. and the West, there are marked differences in the way we speak from inland west, to the Pacific Northwest, to Southern California, and even in Northern California. But, I'm not a linguist. Not yet anyway.
07-05-2010, 11:30 AM
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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I love it when Westerners or people describing Westerners say "we have no accent" How the hell do we speak then? If we were speaking to a foreigner in a foreign country, would the foreigner say "Gee whiz, this person has no accent?" No, of course not.

I think the regional variations between the different regions of the West are extremely subtle, but its not really that major. Traveling throughout the West, I find that places closer to areas with more marked accents are probably going to share some of their traits, but that's no different than any other place since accent maps are always a spectrum, never a straight line. I think you can tell where a person is from more by the slang they use. In California, Northern Californians are fond of using the word "hella", which is like an anathema to my ears. Southern Californians have a fondness of using "like" in every single sentence. I know I do. However, as time moves on, both of these things and other slang has spread throughout the West and the US. Thank the internet and mass-communications for that one.

However, the more marked accents out here are definitely from the HUGE immigrant populations. I've learned to pick up where people are from based on the way they talk and how they construct sentences. I notice that people from Slavic countries (Russia, Poland, etc.) have a hard time using articles in English because there aren't really that many articles in Slavic languages.

Filipinos have a hard time with gender confusion in sentences (like confusing the words him/her, he/she) since there aren't any real words to distinguish "he/she" in most Austronesian languages.

Chinese people tend to talk extremely fast (the faster their native dialect, the faster they end up speaking English), while Koreans tend to talk extremely slow.

Latino accents obviously vary by region. People from El Salvador have a noticeable, but somewhat slight pause when they are speaking English. Caribbean Latinos have a more "melodic" way of speaking, and Mexicans tend to draw out words longer than they really are.

NOTE: Linguistics and languages are a HUGE hobby of mine

The beauty of the English language is that it has such a wide spread around the world that there are so many variations on how to speak it. Unlike Spanish or French, there really aren't that many English creole languages either (mostly due to British colonial policy) so you get a million different pronounciations of the same word. Amazing, a'int it?
07-05-2010, 11:56 AM
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It is my experience that the younger generation of adults speaks with less of an accent, regardless of where they are from, than us older gals and guys.
07-08-2010, 04:35 AM
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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There is no accent here in north-central New Mexico but everywhere else in America there is, you know what I'm sayeen?
01-24-2013, 06:46 PM
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There's a few distinctive regional accents out in the West

Utah/Great Basin accent. But the most notable part is that words like Mountain sounds like Mou in, and feel sounds like Feel.

Pacific Northwest accent. Canadian influenced in some ways. Bag sounds like Beg, Tommorow is prounced with an O.

California Vowel shift. Most notable is Cool sounds like Kewl, Bet like Bat, and King sounds like Keen.

Anybody that says theres no distinguishing accent in the Western states is in denial.
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